Thanks, Jeff, for your additional item on this.
However, it seems that this supporting paper was done in Canada.
I also see that there are quite a number of comments opposing that view.
Anyway, I think it is quite important to separate religious affiliation and organized , structured religion from personal esoteric concepts.
I would even go to speculate that there are more educated people who hold some type of personal esoteric concepts without any affiliation whatsoever with organized religious beliefs.
Thanks, Victor, for your interesting comments.
Yes, I am also fascinated with the Skinwalkers stories, as well as the Llorona.
What I particularly enjoy about New Mexico is the rich cultural and spiritual traditions of the native Americans.
It seems to me that the "beliefs" in the paranormal are not strange to many native American cultures. This is why I am interested in places like Dulce, New Mexico.
And places like Chaco Canyon.
A good thought provoking post Norio. We all perceive the world differently. That all humans perceive is a hard fact. But what we perceive is not a fact of the same kind, because we learn what to perceive.
You hit it right on the nail when you said "we learn what to perceive".
How true it is!
Yes, scientific inquiry has brought us a very long way and I think that it is senseless to think that there are people who are abandoning that now.
Anything in this world (whether it is a snapshot of what could be a lenticular cloud) has something to do with perceptions and interpretations. This is how religion starts.
It seems to me that by dogmatically claiming that the cellphone snapshot above is a snapshot of a lenticular cloud, I think you yourself may already be abandoning what you say as scientific inquiry.
Sure, it could be anything. For all I know, that image may simply be some blemish on the lens. Or, even a football, since it was purportedly taken near a football field.
Simply by stating that it is a lenticular cloud (without any analysis) is (to me) definitely abandoning scientific inquiry!
It then becomes a religious belief (to you) as far as you are concerned, since you seem to discard any other possibility and stick to your own belief that it is a lenticular cloud. LOL!!
Here are my latest thoughts on this:
January 18, 2013:
AMERICA'S UFO SUB-CULTURE......why it continues to affect a segment of the population:
Here is my newly revised view on 'Ufology' and Conspiracies.
I take a healthy, skeptical position on the subject matter, without becoming a debunker.
I am still very open.
I still keep an open stance on everything because life itself (as well as death) is a mystery and there could be things in this world that we still do not understand.
We still do not know fully what 'reality' is.
Physical 'reality' may not be the only 'reality'.
For all we know, there COULD be other 'realities' that co-exist with us.
I am not recanting but am simply taking a more rational approach to 'Ufology' as well as to the never-ending speculations about global conspiracies.
My favorite quote is from an English comic book writer, Alan Moore, who said that:
“The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy theory because that is more comforting.
The truth is that the world is chaotic.
It is not the Jewish banking conspiracy or the grey aliens or the 12-foot reptilians from another dimension that are in control.
The truth is more frightening: Nobody is in control.
The world is rudderless”
I have spent more than 50 years in 'Ufology', including many years investigating Area 51 in Nevada.
I also spent many years attempting to investigate and getting to the bottom of the never-ending allegations that there is an underground base in Dulce, New Mexico.
I reside in New Mexico and visit the Dulce area from time to time.
I have recently come to a sobering, personal conclusion that there doesn’t appear to be any single, solid, tangible and irrefutable documentary evidence whatsoever that we have ever been (or are being) visited by physical extaterrestrial aliens in physical alien spacecraft of any kind.
Yet the UFO phenomenon seems to be real.
And, yes, so many questions still remain.
But to conclude that we are being visited by physical aliens in physical spacecraft of some kind seem like a stretch to me.
My late, beloved mother was a staunch skeptic about flying saucers and used to make fun of me for being interested in flying saucers when I was growing up.
But in 1975 I was so astonished when she excitedly informed me that she had witnessed a flying saucerthat instantaneously appeared over a train station Yokohama, Japan, during broad daylgiht and simply vanished in a couple of seconds!
She described the object as a typical flying saucer with a dome attached to it. (Just like the ones you see in comic books and in Science Fiction movies!)
Do I believe her sighting?
When I was growing up, my father used to tell me of his sighting of a strange greenish ball of fire slowly maneuvering itself over the bay of Yokohama, Japan, while he was night fishing.
That was one summer night, either in 1947 or 1948, according to my late father.
Do I believe his sighting?
In the early 1990s I even had a few sightings of things I couldn't readily identify.
There are tens of thousands of first-hand personal accounts of people who claim to have witnessed what they could only describe as UFOs, and this includes highly qualified individuals.
But to conclude that what they had witnessed was a physical spacecraft piloted or maneuvered by physical aliens seems to be a stretch to me.
I am in total agreement with Dr. Jacques Vallee, one of the world's most highly respected researchers, who stated that the UFO phenomenon seems to be real.
But he also stated that to hastily jump to the the conclusion that it is an indication of physical extraterrestrial visitation is pre-mature.
The belief that from time immemorial, UFOs have presented (and continue to present) extraterrestrial visitations remains persistent, among a segment of the population.
But we must also take into consideration that some folks do not seem to be able to separate two distinct thoughts.
One is the conjecture that there are probably other civilizations elsewhere in the universe, and that we are not alone.
Most scientists and astronomers seem to support this speculation, including myself.
However, it is a totally different matter when it comes to the topic of whether such civilizations have ever physically visited (or are visiting) our Earth.
Even Stephen Hawking, one of the most brilliant minds of our time, while supporting the likelihood that we are not alone in this vast universe, confidently stated that no Aliens have ever come to Earth in UFOs.
I have nothing against some of those who are in the so-called 'paranormal/paranoia industry’ (TV producers, booksellers, authors, promoters and conference speakers) that continue to benefit from a segment of the population’s persistent beliefs in UFOs, Aliens and Conspiracies.
I respect everyone's right to make a living somehow.
(I myself maintain my personal belief in God, the creator, but that is simply my personal religious belief, which I keep to myself).
Like I stated in the beginning, this world we live in is still a mystery.
There could be other 'realities' that have always co-existed with us and continue to co-exist with us.
However, we still do not know for sure.
This controversy will go on and on….because, let’s face it, it is all part of America’s UFO sub-culture(which I am a part of, even though I am not too fond of the word 'sub-culture' , which is the mainstream description) and by further extension, a part of human 'belief' system.
Once again, the bottom line to me is that it is all about 'beliefs'.