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Noise Pollution from Kirtland AFB
Noticed an increase in noise pollution since the new base commander took over? Witnessing disregard by KAFB for the City Noise Abatement ordinance (PDF)? Is your neighborhood bombarded all night by noise like this?
There have been an increasingly large number of Albuquerque residents complaining on this forum, Facebook, and in the ABQ Journal, about noise issues from our southernmost neighbor. Now's your chance to voice a concern.
Though this meeting is for the Parkland Hills area, anyone from Nob Hill or Ridgecrest is welcome to attend and voice their concern to Martin Heinrich's office and a representative from KAFB:
TONIGHT OCT 5 @ 6:30pm
http://www.dukecityfix.com/group/fringecresters/forum/topics/parkla...
Come out and let Kirtland hear your concerns.
UPDATE:
Did you miss the meeting? You can still voice your concerns by doing the following (suggested by a journalist friend who covered KAFB for years):
WHO TO CONTACT:
Why is it important you call? Because KAFB is required to file every complaint made by a citizen and report these regularly. Allowable noise is in some part based on the appearance that a community thinks it's OK. If you only call once, that's only 1 complaint tracked for an entire year's worth of noise. So don't let anyone on this site or from KAFB intimidate you into thinking your phone call is unimportant. In fact, it's quite the opposite. Your voice matters and the more often you express it, the more often the taxpayer-funded military is required by law to respond.
There have been an increasingly large number of Albuquerque residents complaining on this forum, Facebook, and in the ABQ Journal, about noise issues from our southernmost neighbor. Now's your chance to voice a concern.
Though this meeting is for the Parkland Hills area, anyone from Nob Hill or Ridgecrest is welcome to attend and voice their concern to Martin Heinrich's office and a representative from KAFB:
TONIGHT OCT 5 @ 6:30pm
http://www.dukecityfix.com/group/fringecresters/forum/topics/parkla...
Come out and let Kirtland hear your concerns.
UPDATE:
Did you miss the meeting? You can still voice your concerns by doing the following (suggested by a journalist friend who covered KAFB for years):
- Call the KAFB public relations # EVERY time you have a noise complaint. The # is 505-846-5991.
- More noise? Call again. As my journalist friend put it, "If they're making noise, you can make noise."
WHO TO CONTACT:
- District 6 City Councilor Rey Garduno (reygarduno@cabq.gov) who is the person responsible for reporting to the City that KAFB is not complying with regulations and that citizens are concerned.
- US Rep Martin Heinrich at (505) 346-6781 (Nobody responded to me from their web contact form)
- NM Senator for District 16, CiscoMcSorley at cisco.mcsorley@nmlegis.gov
Why is it important you call? Because KAFB is required to file every complaint made by a citizen and report these regularly. Allowable noise is in some part based on the appearance that a community thinks it's OK. If you only call once, that's only 1 complaint tracked for an entire year's worth of noise. So don't let anyone on this site or from KAFB intimidate you into thinking your phone call is unimportant. In fact, it's quite the opposite. Your voice matters and the more often you express it, the more often the taxpayer-funded military is required by law to respond.
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Permalink Reply by Dan Ehrig on -
Actually KAFB has C-130s because KAFB is a stopover point for cross-country supply flights. It has V-22's because V-22 pilot training is done here. When they do fly they sound like helicopters (though not as loud), not jet engines.
V-22's are not particularly loud and are not the cause of the late night engine noise. The planes that are generating the noise are not taking off, either. They're running their engines on the ground.
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Permalink Reply by John Johnson on -
Well my ex-neighbor was search and rescue (maroon beret) using C-130s and Jolly Green Giants, replaced by V22s is my understanding although I have not seen him for a few years. I'm sure there are other flights as well, but C-130s are stationed here.
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Permalink Reply by lcaldero on -
First, a lot these posts tick me off so bad I can hardly see straight. And I know a lot of the "you suck, you don't support the military" posters don't live in the neighborhood and DON"T HEAR THE DAMN NOISE. This is the 4th night this week we;ve had the hot refuelng and it lasts for HOURS. At 1ish last night it was still going on.
And by the way -- I am a US Navy veteran; and I work at Sandia Labs. Let me tell you the noise at home is MUCH louder at home than it is on the base. I can't sit outside at night -- so far this week Mon through Thursday (today is Thursday) -- 0 for 4 -- it's just not right.
And DON'T tell me that I am not patriotic. I took an oath to support this country from enemies foreign and domestic; and served; have you?
I was at the meeting this week, and we really need a forum where we can talk reasonably about the noise. I just can't believe that we can't find a way to balance the interests of KAFB, the night ops, and the neighborhoods. We can't do that if the answer is "that's the sound of freedom". That's like saying aircraft fuel in the water supply is the "taste of freedom" -- we are better than that (um... if I watch many more attack ads for the election, I may stop believe that....).
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Permalink Reply by lcaldero on
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And PS: Personally, I miss the Tacos, and I don't mind Reveille, colors for the Flag raising and lowering, and taps; but I respect the rights of my neighbors who do mind. And if sound barriers can go up along interstate highways, why can't we look at similiar options? Can't do it without mutual respect and a reasonable dialogue....
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Permalink Reply by Birdy-O on -
Great response Icaledro. I think your post captures the crux of the issue well; balancing the interests of all the players with reasonable dialogue and compromise. I hope to be able to attend the next meeting and I per Chantal's post, will call KAFB to complain about the late night noise disturbances.
Additionally, I completely agree that a number of the posts are unfairly dismissive of the diminished quality of life that accompanies the late night C130 refueling. Perhaps if your only position in the dialogue is to ridicule reasonable concerns of others, you should sit this one out.
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Permalink Reply by John Johnson on
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I'm not saying anyone is anti-miltary, assuming you were including me in that remark.
I'm saying the base and airport has been there decades longer than you. Don't complain about not doing your due-diligence.before deciding where to move. The word duh comes to mind.
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Permalink Reply by Dan Ehrig on
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Are you being intentionally obtuse? KAFB has never generated this kind of noise before, especially not late at night.
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Permalink Reply by John Johnson on
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I have a friend that lived 5 or 6 blocks from Gibson since the 80s and always complained about the noise, until they moved 5 or 6 years ago.
I told him the exact same thing.
It's not a new situation.
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Permalink Reply by lcaldero on
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Let me ask, when you did your due diligenece for your place of abode, did you moniitor the sound level from 7pm-1am? Oh, and let's see there's the little issue that I didn't hear the engine the first couple years I lived hear. And my house was built in '49. Get real, our neighborhoods and Kirland & Sandia have grown up together -- we're interdependent which is why we want to balance interests....
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Permalink Reply by abqmom on -
I feel and hear your pain, I thought we had it bad in my neighborhood but at least we can sit outside at night...during the day? not so much...
@Chantal, I would be more than happy to sign a petition or attend city council meetings if that would help???
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Permalink Reply by John on -
Amen to this...I'm not anti-military or anti-KAFB but I do work full-time, go to school part-time, am doing an internship...all of which means I try to sleep at 10 pm and wake up before 5. This has been nearly impossible for the last 2 months or so and it's driving me crazy. I've lived 2 blocks from Gibson for the last 5 years and this is by far the worst noise pollution I've experienced.
I'm so glad I came across this thread...I will be calling the KAFB line every time I have a complaint...so pretty much every day.
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