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Permalink Reply by RunLikeADog on November 16, 2011 at 8:04am

I engaged some of these protestors when they stationed themselves outside of one of my favorite eateries. They would not answer any questions, told me they were hired to picket and handed me a dirty, grease stained flyer that stated the business had used non-union carpenters when it was being renovated.

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Permalink Reply by Charles R. McCurdy on November 17, 2011 at 5:26am

The key word is "engaged" maybe if you had inquired respectfully, you would have gotten a different response...Who knows.

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Permalink Reply by RunLikeADog on November 17, 2011 at 8:56am

There was nothing disrespectful in how I interacted with them. But of course, you probably wouldn't believe that either.

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Permalink Reply by Charles R. McCurdy on November 20, 2011 at 6:10am

I believe you...respectfully and peacefully.  I don't have an agenda or anything to prove.

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Permalink Reply by David Cameron on November 17, 2011 at 9:04am

The cited ABQ Journal letter to the editor at the bottom of page 8 of the 2009 thread seems the clearest explanation of the "Shame On..." signs.  If I was a business owner being picketed I'd have copies of this letter on hand to give to customers.

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Permalink Reply by Lebowski on November 17, 2011 at 9:29am

These people personify the evil of unions. I challenge one of you pro union progressives to present an example of a legitimate labor dispute in the last 20 years. By legitimate, I mean something the average and reasonable person would consider legitimate. Some truly unsafe or unfair working conditions...not just fighting for better benefits than 90% of the average workforce...that doesn't count as a legitimate dispute.

The sooner we all admit that unions have become Democrat slush funds that exploit companies as well as workers and harm competition while driving jobs overseas…the better off we’ll be. Never mind their origins…or their necessity 70 years ago.

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Permalink Reply by Charles R. McCurdy on November 20, 2011 at 6:13am

Better progressive than regressive and aggressive..

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Permalink Reply by Lebowski on November 21, 2011 at 9:51am

Charles, the problem is that the left isn't actually progressive, functionally. It just happens to be what you call yourselves, so I use the moniker that seems to be the preferred over liberal these days. Liberal isn't really descriptive either, I could refer to the leftist ideals in more colorful terms if you prefer, I thought that might be perceived as inflammatory.
You'll have to forgive my ignorance on how to describe what the left thinks...I'm used to not having to hide my beliefs behind a cover label. Right or wrong, I know how unpopular it can be to admit you're a Marxist, thus the need for creative smart sounding labels.

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Permalink Reply by Charles R. McCurdy on November 23, 2011 at 3:43am

See what I mean about aggressive-the response of the "right" everybody with a different point of view has to be demonized and referred to as "commies, hippies, or the anti-Christ.  We are all Americans and could  show each other a little respect.  It is apparent that you are not ignorant-a little biased, but this is America with a diversity of ideas and people.  I'm glad for you and the privilege of sharing this great country of ours.

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Permalink Reply by Lebowski on November 23, 2011 at 8:43am

Right, because I've never been called a fascist (which is funny because most actual fascists have been left wing), tea bagger, repuke, racist (which is even funnier considering that 100% of segregationist politicians in this country were Democrats) I could go on, what's the point? I never called anyone a name, I simply named a particular philosophy. If you feel there are negative inferences to Marxism...I think you would have some fellow "fixers" that disagree with you.

This really just illustrates what I was saying in the first place. Why are left wingers so afraid to admit they are Marxist or Socialist...those aren't insults, they are viewpoints that many of you hold...albeit unpopular.

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Permalink Reply by Charles R. McCurdy on November 25, 2011 at 4:25am

"There you go again..."-Ronnie.   I don't see the word "fascist" anywhere in my discourse with you.  I've never even met a Marxist or a Socialist and I would very much avoid any fascist in any fashion.  And the only wings, I've participated in belonged to turkeys..so, I don't know what you're inferring.  God bless you sir, enjoy your life.  This is futile and I'd rather contribute to the community in some concrete and useful way.  So long...

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Permalink Reply by Tyler McCormick on November 25, 2011 at 11:46pm

While I agree that the "Shame On..." signs represent an unfortunate and terrible side of today's unions, the labor dispute you are looking for is in the continued plight of the Migrant farm workers who have absolutely no rights or access to social needs we take for granted. It happens in New Mexico, California, and any place with commodity produce, today. This is even among people who have legitimately entered the country to do this work.

 

Thank you.

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