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Brendan replied to Roger Tholen's discussion free will vs determinism in the group Atheists of ABQ
"Oh, okay. I think what you're saying is this: With all the conflicting beliefs, values and obligations that every human bears, what can be done to improve the condition of mankind as a whole? Leaving it to the discretion of the individual has…"
Jul 29, 2009
Roger Tholen replied to Roger Tholen's discussion free will vs determinism in the group Atheists of ABQ
"I was looking at possible ways we could improve on the more or less tragic ways in which our society presently deals with its problems. Obvuiyly the free will way is not working all that well. I was hoping to find people who might have some other…"
Jul 28, 2009
Brendan replied to Roger Tholen's discussion free will vs determinism in the group Atheists of ABQ
"Uh, could you repeat the question? Human societies are collectives of people who compromise their free will to their (hopefully greater) mutual benefit. There are religious societies, fraternal societies, private clubs, circles of friends, etc.…"
Jul 26, 2009
Bar Shirtcliff replied to Roger Tholen's discussion free will vs determinism in the group Atheists of ABQ
"oops. "
Jul 26, 2009
Bar Shirtcliff replied to Roger Tholen's discussion free will vs determinism in the group Atheists of ABQ
Jul 26, 2009
Bar Shirtcliff replied to Roger Tholen's discussion free will vs determinism in the group Atheists of ABQ
"are you suggesting that it might be wiser to just outlaw religion? it sure didn't work out too well in Russia."
Jul 26, 2009
Roger Tholen added a discussion to the group Atheists of ABQ
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free will vs determinism

I would like to start a discussion on the question of will free will solve our societies problems. It would appear its not working all that well when one looks at all the problems we are dealing with. The god trip keeps a lot of it going. The old saying "if you keep doing the same thing, and expecting different results:" is one definition of insanity. We have proof of this all around us.
Jul 26, 2009
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Jul 26, 2009

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Where I Live:
I live in the country but get into Albq a couple times a week.
About Me:
I"m a retired dog trainer, behavior therapist, living in the country with my two dogs. I'm 5'9'' 155pds, love learning anything new, dedicated atheist, really enjoy science, One of my favorite behaviors is a enjoyable conversation with intelligent people.
Favorite Thing(s) About Albuquerque:
Huge variety of things to do. Most of the time people are freindly.
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http://www.thegentledogs.net
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To much time at the computer to read much. Pc computer. Health newsletters.

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