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Comment by RunLikeADog on December 17, 2013 at 8:54am
I don't see a problem with an open market for the privatization of parts of the education system. As long as there are clear expectations of the desired outcomes as set by the Government, I believe the general population would benefit from an open market place for education.
Comment by Hunter on December 17, 2013 at 9:35am

As long as Nob Hill business owners continue to leave cash on the premises overnight they can expect the burglaries to continue.  My question for them is why haven't they contracted for private security patrols?

Comment by Phil_0 on December 17, 2013 at 11:10am

I know the Nob Hill Center proper has security guards, Hunter...maybe they don't work late? Seems pretty foolish if that's the case.

RLAD, the big question to me is whether a monetized education system operating for profit is more or less likely than the current system to put the interests of students first. In my opinion the evidence so far suggests that's not always the case...if test scores go up and you cut the "bottom line" (ie, other programs like history, music, etc., or anything else that doesn't directly translate into test numbers), are you running a "successful" program that should be rewarded by investors, or is that a failure? If nothing else, it seems like the education "industry" needs to be regulated a whole lot more heavily than it is now...they're being entrusted with a precious resource.

Comment by once banned twice shy on December 17, 2013 at 2:46pm

So, RLAD, you don't have a problem with the government just giving money away to grifters whose only concern is making money, with educating children only secondary?  Also...once education is privatized, then who can afford to go to school?  Don't forget that public education was not a given not that long ago in this country.

The Nob Hill center security guards indeed do not work 24.7.  The problem for business owners if that if they were to take the cash away, they'd just become targets for thieves waiting for them to leave at night.  A safe would seem to be a good solution--I know one restaurant I worked in had a safe and that was where the manager would put the evening's take for safety overnight.

Sadly, it seems like the businesses will all have to start investing in those roller shades that are ubiquitous in Europe--or even roller iron bars.

Comment by RunLikeADog on December 17, 2013 at 3:15pm
Phil_0, the bottom line issue already exists with the current system. And to address there ever pleasant OBTS, the Government has had relationships with the private sector ever since George Washington crossed the Delaware ( I know that's not historically accurate so calm down). All of the concerns out there can be addressed by a thorough contract and proper oversight. There is no good reason not to try privatization in the educational sector at least in a limited capacity.
Comment by Phil_0 on December 17, 2013 at 5:05pm

If education is going any further down that route we need a LOT more oversight and significantly more regulation, probably at both the federal and state levels. As it stands there's a lot of junk science out there, and little consensus about what even constitutes "good" results. Locally, there are lots of bad options and schemes that upon solid review seem to mostly be about enriching their creators with taxpayer money rather than serving students. Teachers and all their alleged powers and entitlements may be right-wing bugaboos these days but it's still mighty hard to get rich teaching public school. Quit and come back as a private-sector "educational consultant," though, and you can really rake in the dough.

Comment by Hunter on December 18, 2013 at 9:38am

RLAD - " the Government has had relationships with the private sector ever since George Washington crossed the Delaware".

The image in my mind is Washington haggling with a marina manager over the cost to rent some boats, when they have to be returned by, what's the deposit.  .

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