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Comment by RunLikeADog on November 27, 2012 at 7:47am
Bummer about Santa Fe Greenhouses. I guess someone forgot to tell David Salman that the economy was great.
Comment by Masshole in Fringecrest on November 27, 2012 at 8:38am

My gut tells me there's more to the story than that. Divorce? Lawsuit? I dunno. Their mail order operation was very highly regarded and businesses like that don't go from expanding (into ABQ), to flat growth, to closed in less than two years. And the new houses that are built around here are mostly devoid of landscaping, or have the wrong landscaping, which spells lots of opportunity for them, so I just don't get it...

Comment by ramon t on November 27, 2012 at 9:06am

That is too bad.  I was going to make a run to them in the spring and spend some significant coin there landscaping our new house.  Oh well.

Comment by hettie on November 27, 2012 at 10:25am

Advice to ABQ Ride about bus service: stop focusing on Central and pay attention to ANY other area of the city. For instance, Why isn't there rapid ride service on Montgomery? Or any rapid ride connection between Central and Montgomery on a major north-south street, like San Mateo? Here's another idea: The 5 bus that serves Carlisle and Montgomery (and connects the UNM/CNM area with CNM's campus near Montgomery and Juan Tabo) is heavily used throughout the day. Why not add a rapid ride bus to that route? It's like the route planners are blind to anything but the Central corridor. Yes, rapid rides have been successful there, now move on to serving the rest of the city! Guess we'll have to try and attend one of the meetings.....

Comment by once banned twice shy on November 27, 2012 at 10:48am

Masshole:  agreed. There was no hint of the place going out of business when I was last there in September.  Usually places start selling off inventory and telling the public they need to move the inventory.  I smell something going on there.

RamonT:  Go to Jericho Nursery instead.  Great people and great selection of plants. 

Hettie:  WORD.  How about a Rapid Ride on Paseo del Norte?  Instead of continually throwing a bazillion dollars at expanding roads and interchanges, what about a bazillion dollars thrown to a real transit system?  Hell, if you had a Rapid Ride on Paseo and good connections, you might even see some "fancy" people on the bus.

Comment by RM on November 27, 2012 at 10:58am

What I heard (this is a while back, I must admit) is that the next Rapid Ride would be the Lomas 11 bus.

Comment by RunLikeADog on November 27, 2012 at 11:14am
I suppose all of the speculation regarding Santa Fe Greenhouses could be true, however all we really have is the owners statements to go on. Speaking from experience, one would be surprised at the lack of planning on the part of many business for an exit strategy should conditions for a business go south. That is because most business owners are not programmed to fail, they focus on success. Bottom line; my bet is the economy and competition from Big Box stores killed this business.
Comment by Dan M on November 27, 2012 at 12:18pm

SLF: The next Rapid Rides will be on Montgomery, San Mateo and/or Paseo. 

OBTS: Totally agree.  With the money they are spending on that interchange, ABQ could build a world-class bus transit system AND a really good bicycle network.  Oh well. I guess sprawl is a "better investment .  

Hettie: The reason Central gets so much focus is because ~%50 of ALL bus ridership in the city is on that single corridor.  

The project they are trying to do there now is not Rapid Ride; it's a full Bus Rapid Transit project, which has the potential to transform the corridor.  You should definitely go to the meeting; there's a lot of good info there.  For a look at what could this Central project is being based on, read about the HealthLine in Cleveland.   

Comment by Phil_0 on November 27, 2012 at 1:21pm

Dan M: Central is obviously the spine of ABQ's bus network, but I'd argue it's already pretty well-served, especially in comparison to other areas. With respect to the Rapid Ride, Montgomery buses get heavy use, especially between Carlisle and Wyoming. Based on how packed the 5 is lately, I think we'd see a significant spike in ridership if the city added more frequent service. I imagine the frequency of buses is a big reason why ridership on Central has climbed so high.

As a counterpoint, I noticed on the bus today that the city is eliminating bus service on Louisiana north of Montgomery as of mid-December. The transit system has improved dramatically in the last 10 years, but I agree that the city needs to be very careful about putting all its transit eggs in the Central basket.

Comment by Dan M on November 27, 2012 at 3:19pm

Phil_0: I agree completely.  I strongly recommend that you attend one of the meetings and say these very things.  Without our feedback, the city can only guess what we as citizens want and need.  

The justification behind this Central project is that the Rapid Rides are already at capacity during many portions of the day.  Considering this corridor has been growing consistently in ridership, with more projected ridership, the existing Rapid Ride type service just doesn't cut it.  Once this new Central corridor project is completed, new vehicles will be purchased for Central and the existing Rapid Ride buses can then be used on other corridors. 

The Montgomery/Montaño corridor has been heavily studied by ABQ Ride and they have hinted that it will be the next Rapid Ride corridor.  However, it all comes down to funding.  ABQ Ride would like to expand frequency and capacity on many routes; right now, they just can't.  

Also related to funding, this new project on Central would probably qualify for federal funding.

Remember that just a few weeks ago the citizens of ABQ strongly voted to spend millions of dollars on a single interchange.  Transit was not even mentioned in regard to the Paseo project.  Until priorities change, ABQ Ride will have a hard time effectively serving the citizens of ABQ.  


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