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Comment by Laura F. Sanchez on July 19, 2013 at 7:24am

Over the last few decades all over the country, big stores and malls near a city's core have been abandoned as businesses move to the suburbs, then the suburban stores and malls being abandoned as business moves to the new fringes of sprawl and so on. Be great if the Winrock redevelopment could create a successful new pattern.

Comment by once banned twice shy on July 19, 2013 at 9:39am

But...the Winrock plan calls for a "high-end residential complex."  That's not what Albq. really needs.  We need affordable housing.

Comment by ramon t on July 19, 2013 at 9:46am

We are getting affordable housing also.  Doesn't have to be one or the other.  Downtown, IIRC, currently has 3 affordable housing projects going on, or is it two?

Comment by ramon t on July 19, 2013 at 9:48am

No, it's 3.  The apartments on Lead, apartments across from Robinson Park and the ones going over the grocery store on Silver.

Comment by shotsie on July 19, 2013 at 9:52am

$20M for two Spaceport centers - okay, one of them ($19M) will be for the rich passengers and their entourage; the other ($1M) will be for the less fortunate folk. Personally, I feel they should just set up a giant RV Park (just like Cape Canaveral) , since the flights will be hit-or-miss once a week and, anyway, Elephant Butte is right down the road. 

Can't wait for the first posting of Victoria Principal after her latest face lift fails.....(she did sign on to become the first passenger, fyi.)

Comment by Phil_0 on July 19, 2013 at 10:44am

4, Ramon. There's a motel conversion nearing completion a little ways west of Robinson Park on Central. (Somewhere between 8th and 12th)? I understand it's intended for somewhat needier and more at-risk folks than the other places, which are intended for a mix of incomes ranging from just above the poverty line up to market rate. And depending on how far your version of downtown extends, there's also a large affordable multistory family apartment development going in on Broadway just south of I-40. So yeah, lots of options going in. I won't entirely believe in the grocery store until they actually break down, but it looks like as of this week the big apartment complex at Robinson Park is underway.

As far as the two Spaceport visitor centers go, one will be placed in Las Cruces and the other will be in Truth or Consequences. The idea is to provide information about the site to people passing through in an effort to draw them out to its (very) remote location.

Comment by once banned twice shy on July 19, 2013 at 10:45am

Sadly, ramon t, yes, it does have to be one or the other.  In case you haven't noticed, NM ranks dead last in salaries--and is losing skilled people to other states that aren't just like third-world countries.  There are wealthy people here, yes, but they are in a small minority.  This town and state needs housing for the people who live here, not for the people they wish lived here.

Comment by ramon t on July 19, 2013 at 10:58am

NM != Albuquerque

I do agree we need affordable housing.  Though I do not bemoan a developer who has done research and might have identified a need for upscale housing also.  How upscale is this property going to be?  Currently in NM People in poverty is just below 20%.  Depending on how upscale the property is, its clientele could be more than just a small minority.  This is one 'up-scale' housing project.  Just one.  As I mentioned above there are 3 low-income and above projects in downtown alone.  Phil noted another not far from downtown also.  Are there others as well?  More than likely there is.

Comment by shotsie on July 19, 2013 at 12:48pm

Phil_0:  They're building a 6000 sf center in TorC, and a 25,000(! ) sf center at the Spaceport, but you have to be bussed to it from TorC.  I can't imagine it'll be a cheap ticket - where they get the estimate of 200,000 visitors is beyond me.  I would switch the centers, so TorC would get the 3-D movie theatre, that would be cool to visit. 

Comment by ramon t on July 19, 2013 at 1:07pm

Phil - I believe the one you are speaking about is the one on 11th and Central.  That is for NM Aids Housing Services.  Here is an article.


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